Nerds I need help new PC kk.,

Discussion in 'Tech Help' started by Katiechops, Jan 4, 2011.

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    Specter Veteran BOON

    Depends a lot on the games... For example:
    In aion i had the exact same performance with a dual core 2.4 ghz , GTS8800 and with a quad core 2.4ghz , GTX285.

    So much better GPU, better CPU, same performance. This means -> aion doesnt take advantage of multiple cores, and therefore clockspeed is a bottleneck for the GPU.
    Sad :(

    On the other hand, Wolfen had an AMD 3.x ghz or something, with a GFX similar to mine and got 60 fps during sieges when i had 10.
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    Divinitas Community Member

    I think you miss my point mate :)

    Q6600 when i bought it was under £100, the 8800 i've had for 3 years or maybe even more, and with that old system i'm still able to play the majority of games, even in Aion i only crashed very occasionally when compared to somebody with a massively expensive system and that was only on the huge fights quite often with balaur also. In Crysis i was able to play it just below the uber mega details.

    I wasn't recommending it to KC as its far to old and would be pointless to buy now, that said the 8800 GTX is the best GFX card I've ever seen simply because its extremely stable and with decent cooling is the dogs bollocks for its age. KC needs to go buy similar to what has been posted, or like Tal says which is better IMO just wait until you come across a game you want to play but can't due to system limitations.
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    Tal The Architect

    Better CPU's do have an more positive impact on MMO's than other games (a lot of benchmarks are done on single player games to keep tests fair - MMO's can vary from time to time and zone to zone). KC also uses fraps often too.

    Anyway, like I said, I'd wait. In fact I'm waiting too. There's just no point in getting a new PC right now, it's one of the worst times.
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    Specter Veteran BOON

    IF KC uses fraps, then i'd say it would be wise to invest on a GOOD CPU and also on a GOOD HARD DRIVE (either one or 2 ssd in RAID setup)
    OFC you will need a good GFX aswell, but if you're fraps'ing stuff i think a fast hard drive is important.
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    Katiechops Guild Master

    /ok BUMP buying a PC this week,, no ATI card please I have one I never liked it, Nvidia please kk £500 budget minus HD I will buy that seperate.
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    Ludacola Community Member

    for Gaming

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/

    I got my PC from there for just over £1500 although i do have a lot in it. but they way the use the space in the machine is beautiful. cablemanagment, airflow etc.. they think of everything. They are in Huddersfield , Yorkshire too
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    Ludacola Community Member

    AMD PHENOM II X4 955 (3.20GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3) - BLACK EDITION
    ASUS® M4A78LT-M: mATX MAINBOARD, DDR3, USB 2.0, SATA 3.0Gb/s
    4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)
    1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX460 - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - DirectX® 11, 3D Vision Ready
    1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
    600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)
    NO OPERATING SYSTEM

    This came to £520

    With an OS (Operating System) its around £80 more
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    I said it once and I will say it again...... £500, you tight cunt.

    Get an i7 processor (930 will do) and get 6Gb of triple channel RAM and since your a Nvidia fanboy, grab a couple of decent GTX cards and SLI them. Couple that with a decent motherboard (I would avoid ASUS as they have too much preinstalled shite) a decent PSU if your current is too low to run the new kit, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler (Zalman ftw) get yourself a SSD if you can afford a decent sized one, I still don't use SSD as I just cant afford the big ones, else a decent Hard Drive will do, think mine is a 1TB Western Digital, oh and Chops, most importantly.... WINDOWS 7!!!
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    Wonsie Veteran BOON

    I dunno what specs you have on your computer now.

    I would wait a bit and buy a Sandy Bridge model of the computer.
    Does processor outperforms AMD anyday, even AMD new processors that comes this summer wont stand a chance vs intels new processors.

    What is best is to get a i7 2600k, it performs really well, but still kind of expensive modle. The best processor for the price out there right now is the i5 2500k model. That would be the best processor for the cheapest price to choose.

    Motherboard and such, ye something the new sockel.

    You worked alot with making game movies and such? I would say go for 12gb ram it is not to expensive atm, and will last you long and perfect for rendering movies. To make the rendering time even less I would go for the i7 2600k.

    The only problem with a i7 2600k setup with 12gb ram and a motherboard, kind of almost put you at like 450pounds already.

    But the i7 2600k runs easy at 3,76ghz with 8threads and what I read with a decent fan, they clock it to 4,5-4,9ghz and run it stable.
    But the i5 2500k runs also at around the same ghz but only on 4threads.
    Both of them is quad core models

    This is the processor's and motherboards I would buy, nothing else. Best processors for the price out there.

    http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=52214,52210
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    Shantotto Guest


    the i5 2500k for ~£160 outperforms the i7 975 and the 980x extreme.
    It's an amazing cpu for value, the 2600k for £230 is even better but doesn't outperform it gaming wise by that much.
    In fact the 2500k beats the 2600k on some engines.
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    shibbyy Community Member

    Everyone seems to be suggesting machines/parts that are pretty damn expensive and wont work on a £500 budget.
    Also, I don't know you well KC but i'm assuming if you dont know what you're buying you dont know how to put it together and would like a system already put together?

    I'm no expert but I get all my stuff from overclockers, mainly because they build it for you and any time i've compared it to another website they've always come out on top by a long way, and they also do some really good deals on certain weeks.

    If you're gonna buy a new pc and want it to last then for sure get a quad core or an i5, but the i5 is a bit more expensive.
    Here's what I found through overclockers at a quick glance.

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-210-OK&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat=

    This is the same setup I'm running except when I bought it there was a january sale on so I got it for around 520 but with a 5770 GDDR5 HD card.

    Also the great thing is with overclockers you can just contact them and swap stuff around, request more ram etc etc, but with this system(plus a dif gfx card) i've had no lag at all at full settings, and only a tiny tiny tiny bit of choppyness with 50-100 people in a rift raid.
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    Katiechops Guild Master

    £500 = specd for 30 fps in rift, abilty to run MS Office and windows explorer... no other needs.

    PS I know how to build PC's etc np I have built everyone I have ever had, I just can't be assed to go figure out whats good value these days wqith all the funny new names for everything so trying to use the collective nerd knowledge of ppl who might have that at hand. Failing that I will go source it and do it myself :p
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    Very true, but the i7 allows for triple channel RAM, which isn't really needed if your just gaming I guess, but who knows, Chops might secretly be doing lots of video editing or programming...... doubtful, but you never know.
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    Wonsie Veteran BOON

    I still think with a low budget the i5 2500k is the way to go as a processor, it is cheap and you get a insane amount of power with small amount of cash.

    i would say,

    i5 2500k as processor
    motherboard that supports 2500k
    4-8gb ram
    and like a Nvidia 560 or 570.

    I dont know any english sites where to order stuff, i dunno what the price would be on that pc, my bet is around 500pounds. Anyone that can look it up?
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    You and Shanto and right Wonsie, but we need to keep pushing him to up his budget and stop reinforcing the Scottish stereotype of tight bastardness!!
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    Divinitas Community Member

    Your all making it far to complicated, KC just go buy 2 hamsters, replace your current one and hay presto, a upgrade!

    wonsie some sites to give you an idea, ebuyer (normally find it to be the best), scan, overclockers
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    Acina Admin Officer

    Never gunna happen, we all know you are!!

    I have to agree with Wonsie and Shanto, the i5 is quite nice for the price.
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    Gwain Community Member

    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz 128€
    or
    AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz 164€
    Ram
    2x DDR3 Corsair Classic XMS3 CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 1600Mhz 4GB 73 €
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4A87TD EVO ( got usb3 and sata 6.0 gb/s ) 82€
    VGA
    Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 195 €
    HD
    Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB (WD10EARS) 64MB cache 48€
    Case
    Inter-Tech CK-35 31€
    Power
    any 600W around 40€
    Ottics
    any around 20€

    we are between 620€ and 660€ mean 526£ - 560£ whit italy price... i don't know prices in uk :)
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    Wonsie Veteran BOON

    What I do when i buy a PC is that i spend around 900-1000pounds, that PC will last for around 3 years processor/motherboard/memories.
    After 1,5years I buy a new graphic card and replace the old one to get along the last 1,5years

    After that it is time to look for a new PC.

    ...
    My PC setup right now.
    Quad core Q6600, 2,66ghz
    8gb ram (800mhz)
    motherboard p5q
    Radeon HD 5870 1GB

    Before i had 4gb ram and c2d 2,66ghz but manage to get 8gb of ram and the quadcore for 130pounds, so kind of bough it to last me another year, otherwise I should have bough a new PC after the summer. Have been really tempted on the i7 2600k or the i5 2500k. The 2500k have seemed like a superstrong processor.

    Instead of buying a new PC after the summer i'm going to buy me a SSD drive, to boost the performance of the PC, that is usually the problem with todays PC is that the Sata drive and the IDE drive, just dont cut it anymore. The processor/momories/graphiccards is just to good. Like the biggest performance uppgrade I could do is to buy a SSD drive. They are still new and expensive :(
    ...

    Anyway back to katieshops.
    I would suggest you wait untill summer and buy a i5 2500k processor, that is the best advice I could give you. Reason why untill the summer is because intel fucked up with the motherboards, was a fualty in the sata ports that they will have to exchange the motherboards that they have sold so far and produce new, So with this it might take sometime the motherboards are in stores again, probably a 2-3 months.

    From the experiance I have had, Never buy AMD neither the processor or the graphic cards, such a shit compeny. Choose Nvidia if you want proper graphicdrivers that work and intel processor for the quality it gives. It is worth to pay a few extra bucks to get from Intel and Nvidia, you will get it back in times you want to rip your head of because the drivers of the radeon cards being shit.

    And maybe save up some more money for your new pc.

    You dont have any parts from your old PC that you can reuse? like harddrive? and DVD burner? chassi? or something like that?
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    I do exactly the same as you Wonsie.

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