Okay, i have seen so many discussions on this topic, and dota vs lol vs hon flame wars, so i decided to troll for a bit. Background: i used to play dota for like ... 4 years. I never got better. I had some friends i was playing with, but we were either facing complete scrubs, or we were facing godlike people, so we never actually got to skill up. Then i came to HoN, and i started as a scrub, and i noticed i was relatively being matched up with people of my skill. As i went with my ranking up, the games became harder, but here's the kicker: There are 3 types of games in HoN, and you really can't enjoy it unless you get this idea rock solid in your head: Anyone BELOW 1500 - they are completely and utterly noobs. If you're in that bracket, then you surely have not read a few GREAT guides that helped me out get out of that shithole, as a beginner i really had no clue about builds and i was just staying in the same place: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=235441 http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=156877 http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=79352 I posted just 3 threads, because you should never follow blindly a tutorial, it's just for guidelines. Everyone has their own play style, and you have to discover stuff on your own as well, but you also need just some basic common sense rules. If you get some skill, you will play in the 1500 -> 1650 bracket. If the players are a BIT better here, you still RARELY get any teamplay, because people come from the lower 1500 bracket, and they are used to solo play. Now comes the fun part. If you managed to get above 1700, then you will have the epic fun games. out of 5 6 matches per day, i RARELY get some scrub to mess up the game, because everyone above 1700, pretty much knows his business. What is to like about HoN though? Well, it actually requires some brains to play, like dota does. You need to learn to last hit, deny, harass, try to get as much early xp as possible as your lane, and generally small things make the difference. You will think twice about going bananas into 5 people and dieing, and if you do some heroic stuff, like initiating a gank, managing to pull off some damage, escape with 2 hp, and the other team wiped, then it's surely way more rewarding than doing robot stuff like auto attack creeeps, and farm. Last but not the least, HoN adds a bit more power over DotA by adding some new mechanics in the game -> vector targeting / combo stuff. They add a new hero every 2 weeks, and even though they had a shitty period of downtime with the ddos thing, it seems settled now. I played lol for more than 1 week, daily with some friends, but i was not impressed by any means. I tried, i knew it doesn't feel cool, but i actually tried to like it, and then i gave up. I find the mechanics broken, the "team" over "skill" thing, the unbalance and so on. I also don't agree with the idea of buying gradually my heroes, or get pwned because someone had cash, and got a more OP hero than mine and so on in LoL If you want to see how much fun HoN is, watch the spotlight for the new hero that is being launched today. Looks insanely complicated but it will be insanely fun if i manage to master it properly If you want to test hon, i have 2 accounts i can share with you, as long as you don't change the password, as i am using the third First come first serve. Anyway, i should let the video do the talking: No don't ask, HoN did not copy the Monkey King hero from LoL, it's been a beta hero since 2009 in HoN, just not introduced in the game.