Parts for a new PC

Discussion in 'Tech Help' started by Pauleh, Jan 14, 2012.

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    Pauleh Veteran BOON

    So i've been putting it off but its well overdue that i upgrade my pc and i came across some cash so i think its high time i get it sorted.

    I am utterly clueless when it comes to pc's so my brother in law recommended some bits already but i was looking for any other input or recommendations from some of you guys. Also i don't know if everything i've looked at or picked is compatible with other pieces or is necessarily the best option.

    I aint got much money to play around with really so i'm not gonna be going for the best of the best, just stuff that will do a decent enough job so i'll say if have around 500-600 quid on budget.

    So far i've got on my list

    CPU: Intel core i5 2500 (my brother inlaw recommended the 2500k but i wouldn't have a clue about overclocking so that aspect didn't really interest me)

    http://www.ebuyer.com/251597-core-i...mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80623i52500

    Motherboard: The 2 i got recommended should work for the CPU i choose, atleast i hope they should be a bit naff if they didn't, anyway would like to know which of the 2 you would use and why.

    Gigabyte GA-Z68P-DS3 : has nothing extra built in i don't think i need anything gimmicky, i intend to use my current soundcard and get a new graphics card so no need for built in shit.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/284388-gigaby...5-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-ga-z68p-ds3

    Asus P8Z68-V : has onboard graphics, i wouldn't need them so paying an extra 15 quid for just that doesn't seem worth it if the other motherboard will do exactly the same job.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/281367-asus-p...raphics-output-8-channel-audio-atx-p8z68-v-lx

    Memory: Got recommended some 4 x 2gb sticks but i don't think thats what i want, i want 8 gig would just prefer it in 2 sticks that are compatible with the motherboard, not really bothered about brand just aslong as it works, the one i liked the look of (tho i don't know if its compatible) is a decent enough price but i'm open to suggestion on past experiences or whatever works for others.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/274036-corsai...e-blue-low-profile-cl9-1-5v-cml8gx3m2a1600c9b

    PSU: was thinking about using my current one but i'm not sure if it would be powerful enough, the one i currently have is a OCZ-520 12U EU, which i read is 520 watts and 620 watts at peak. Not sure that would be enough juice for the set up so i wouldn't mind buying a new one but i don't fancy spending too much on it tbh.

    Hard Disk: My current one is 250gig but its like 4-5 years old, no idea if newer ones are any faster at all but i don't even use it all, 250 is enough tho maybe i'd go for a 500gig one. All i know is that the price skyrocketed cause of the flooding/tsunami.

    Graphics Card: Bit lost when it comes to this because theres so many out there and new ones constantly coming out old ones going cheaper. I got recommended these 3 XFX HD 6870 (AMD) / EVGA 1Gb GeForce GTX 460 (NVIDIA) / Asus 1GB GeForce GTX 560 (NVIDIA). My current ones a HD4870 so i guess any of these would be a slightly big upgrade over that.

    Also if you use any different sites it'd be cool to know about them, so far i've only looked on ebuyer and scan.

    Hope someone can help this poor misguided fool, cause i'm prety much in the dark when it comes to pc parts now. Thanks! o/
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    Gekido Community Member

    Go for for Gigabyte MB, for RAM i would suggest to look into Kingstons, should be a bit cheaper than corsairs, for graphics, since you're going for Intel not AMD cpu go for GTX 560 or 560 Ti. That would be my two cents..

    P.S. If you're nto going t oc anything or do SLI/Xfire then 520 watts PSU should suffice.

    P.S.S. For HDD i'd advice to wait till mid/end of summer, prices should go down by then according to WD and Seagate.
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    Angelo Community Member

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    This is what I came up with, no hard drive but its got a 2500k so if you dont think of overclocking its 2500. (hopefully i didnt forget anything)

    Take a look at Aria.co.uk. They do some nice bundles and deals, also sell prebuilt and if you want it built they charge like £25 i think..
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    Get GSkill RAM you bacon freezing bellend!!!
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    TOMMCAT Veteran BOON

    I have atm a i5 2500 3.3ghz , motherboard Asus P8z68 - V , RAM Kingston Hyperx 1600 , and a gtx560OC ( Asus ENGTX560 DC II OC/2DI/1GD5 ) and i'm very happy with my pc. I don't have any problems and i really can play all the games on ultra details without my cpu or gpu getting overheated and i play BF3 on ultra details around 8 hours/day witout brake.
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    adagio Moderator

    Get the 2500k cpu over the 2500 as the overclocking is so simple. Its just one number change in the bios and thats it. Graphics card always depends on your preference. ATI you should look at 6870 or Nvidia 560ti.

    Sites I normally use are

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/index.php (Great delivery service but sometimes expensive)
    www.aria.co.uk (Often the cheapest and good delivery)
    www.ebuyer.com (Old and trusted fav of many people)
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    Fizzee Veteran BOON

    Qft. Any one of a number of us would be happy to talk you through it on TS. Plus there are "guides" for almost every mobo out there.

    Worth the little bit extra for an easy 4-4.5 OC
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    Gekido Community Member

    Well it isn't really necessary to oc the CPU for todays games, I know cuz i've got 2500k myself, so if he's trying to save some money i would advice him to go for 2500 since not only the cpu is cheaper, but he wont need to buy a cpu cooler aswell, which goes for 50 pounds or smth.

    Now overclocking GPU is a whole other story ;) I have the same graphics as TOMMCAT and it's awesome.
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    Pauleh Veteran BOON

    cheers for the replies dudies, lots of useful stuff to take in.

    aria looks like a decent site to check out, certainly looks cheaper on certain components, tho i'm wondering which site your screenie is of Angelo, its not aria is it? cause the i5 2500k is £166 on there site (tho i don't think thats inc the vat so that would make sense)

    think i will maybe go for the i5 2500k if its as easy as people say it is i cant see the harm, but would i definately need to buy a new cpu cooler for it, the default one it comes with not good enough? also Gekido said my current PSU would be enough aslong as i dont overclock or use X-fire, im guessing by overclocking the 2500k i would possibly have to buy not only a new cpu cooler but another power supply?

    Mobo looks a done deal with the Gigabyte (kinda felt that already but just needed some re-assurance) so thats a non issue now unless anyone says otherwise.

    was talking to Tal and he mentioned kingston memory last night i think and as someone else in here said they use it just fine i think that one looks like a good deal

    is this the one your using TOMMCAT?
    http://www.ebuyer.com/272176-kingst...-blu-memory-kit-cl9-1-65v-khx1600c9d3b1k2-8gx

    Graphics card i think i'll go for an nvidia one, tho i swear in the past i had tonnes of problems with them breaking down/overheating and stuff, tho ATi's driver updates always drive me mad and i usually have to uninstall and re-install them 2-3 times to get them working how i want

    gonna have another look at the rest later on like, but bit pushing for time atm its the other halves day today, so i consider it lucky i got to have a look in.

    cheers for all the advice so far, all looks good
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    adagio Moderator

    You said the PSU was 650 watts and that should easily be enough.
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    Gekido Community Member

    Yes, a better cooler is a must. About the PSU try playing around with this http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine . But i'm certain that 520 wont be enough for oc'ing this kind of pc. I'd advise you to look into 650W PSUs(thermaltake, corsair or coolermaster).

    P.S. Gigabyte MOBOs have CPU overclocking software included, so you wont need to go to BIOS to overclock your 2500K, you'll be able to do it using your OS.
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    Aspira Admin Officer

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    TOMMCAT Veteran BOON

    Tooty yeah those are the one i'm using them.
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    Pauleh Veteran BOON

    So far i think i'm gonna be going for the following

    Intel i5 2500k (not going to overclock it atm cause i don't wanna be spending extra on PSU's and CPU coolers but it would be nice to have the option there later for when i get the extra cash to upgrade those and then overclock)

    P.s Aspira the cpu cooler you linked i already have a similar one on my current setup, i believe its this one (http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/cpucoolers/cnps9700) is there much performance difference between the 2? and would the one i currently have be better than the default one that comes with the processor and enough to cool it if i overclocked it?

    Gigabyte GA-Z68P-DS3 Motherboard

    Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory

    Graphics im torn between these 2 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Nv...FFC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326720398&sr=8-1 vs http://www.ebuyer.com/267730-asus-g...hdmi-pci-e-graphics-card-engtx560-dc-2di-1gd5 At the moment all i see is slightly different prices and different model numbers although 2 people have already said in here that they have a 560 and its a really good card, the rest of the stuff looks pretty much the same although the overclocked one has 2 fans which i guess would make less noise, and less noise is good cause my current card is like a vacuum when i'm playing but thats most likely cause its being push to its limits and is struggling which these 2 cards wouldn't

    Hard drive i'm looking at these 2 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Hard Drives/SATA (Serial ATA)/500GB to 1TB/500GB Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 3.5" SATA III Hard Drive ?productId=46054 vs http://www.ebuyer.com/146252-samsun...d-drive-sataii-7200rpm-16mb-cache-oem-hd502hj My brother in law recommended the samsung, i found the seagate and thought it looked decent too. 500gigs is plenty enough for me so i'm not bothered about the size, other than that i'm a wee bit clueless as to what the technical details are. The seagate one is cheaper and on ebuyer the exact same one is being sold for £65 (originally £95 with 30 quid knocked off) so my brains thinking that getting the one that was originally more expensive is a better deal right? but cost doesn't always justify quality so i thought i'd ask here again.

    Gonna stick to my current PSU as i'm not wanting to splash out too much more cash and i'm not gonna bother with overclocking straight away and as gekido said above that it should be suffice.

    Not really raised it yet, but i was wondering in my current case would be good enough, i don't think cases play that major a factor except for maybe airflow so i haven't mentioned this yet but my current case is pretty old but i think it should be sufficient enough to hold all the new components but if someone could re-assure of this or tell me if its not good enough it would be brilliant.

    My current case is this one http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product.aspx?c=1327&id=1461#Tab0 (http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/tsunami/tsunami.htm incase the first link didn't work) and its done me just fine for the past 4-5 years and i hope it can last another 4-5 years if i can get away with using it again.

    Now i just gotta find a nice cheap version of windows 7 to run on this setup and i'm all good to go

    I'm probably coming across as a very dense guy who knows nothing about pc's but i'm just a very careful person that wants to make sure everything works 100% before i set out and spend what is now hard to come by cash.

    Also i would just like to thank people for the help they have given so far and for any they can give to me on the above post, your opinions and help is very very much appreciated
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    Gekido Community Member

    1. Your CPU cooler is fine, almost identical as the one Aspira showed. You can never go wrong with zalman in case of cooling.

    2. NEVER EVER buy a seagate HDD! EVER! they're breaking down like crap! Samsung is one of the best out there atm.

    3. Go for ASUS but this one http://www.ebuyer.com/254405-asus-g...dvi-mini-hdmi-pci-e-engtx560-ti-dcii-2di-1gd5. It might seem a bit more expensive, but it's overclock-ready - two fans and copper tubing for contacts - otherwise you'll have to buy another cooler set for GPU as well(that's the one I have, TOMMCAT as well. Features: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGTX560_Ti_DCII_TOP2DI1GD5/) if you want to save a little on graphics card go for 460 then, dont go for 560 Ti with ONE cooler.

    4. Your case is good. Don't even think about buying a new one. :)
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    Yea they seem to be almost identical. One must be a newer model or something.

    You will probably find that one outperforms the other by like 0.0000001 degrees and 0.0000000 decibels.

    Stick to the one you have.
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    Pauleh Veteran BOON

    Glad the CPU cooler is fine, although i think i messed up cause it wasn't the one i link its actually the slightly smaller one, this one http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/intelcooling/cnps9500-at would that still be fine its slightly smaller so less cooling also reading its spec'd at the bottom its saying "Socket LGA1366, LGA1156, LGA775 compatible" but my mobo is gonna be 1155 so i guess that its not compatible, if it is compatible i guess i would need to buy some more thermal paste or whatnot, if its not i'll stick with the default one that comes with the processor until i decide to overclock it and then i'll go about buying the one Aspira linked.

    Noted on the Seagate i'll be going ahead and buying the samsung so thats that issue done and dusted.

    Will have a good look at that graphics card it is more than i would of liked to spend but i haven't added up all the cost of all the components yet so i may be able to squeeze an extra 30-40 quid for it.

    Glad the case is good, it was definitely worth the money i paid for it 4-5 years ago so ker-ching for that :p
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    Aspira Admin Officer

    If it does not list your socket in the compatibility list, then its not compatible and you will need to buy one that does list your socket.

    On the topic of thermal paste, I use Arctic Silver and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE remember, you only need to use a very small amount. Like the size of a pea maximum. The amount of people I know who have slapped that shit on like they were buttering toast and then wondered why their PC wont work.
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    Gekido Community Member

    I've updated my post about graphics - if you want to go for a bit cheaper graphics go for 460 one. Otherwise the one I've linked. Note that 460 that you've linked doesn't have copper tubing, which is very good. DirectCU has copper tubing, but has only one cooler. Besides DirectCU II is already factory overclocked, so you're getting a beter 560 already.

    About the CPU cooler - don't worry about the socket. Brackets are very cheap, i don't know how much they would be in pounds but they go for 2-3 bucks.

    About the thermal paste... if you're going to assemble your PC, you should get some with your CPU, you need a very thin layer of it so don't bother buying more thermal paste.


    Lol, thermal paste cannot result in CPU failure, if you put too much of it then you just waste it. :D
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    Pauleh Veteran BOON

    guess i'll be using the default one for a little while then, and lol at the comment on thermal paste i think a few years back like 2 setups before my current one thats pretty much what i did spread it on thick being so naive :p

    I'll see how much i have to spare before choosing the graphics but its good to know what the different terms means, guess i'll choose from the 2 gtx 560's either way i'm sure both of them will leave my current card (good old HD4870) in the dust

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