Since other classes are doing it and i'm experimenting with my own builds here are the 2 builds i'm debating whether to use, and would appreciate any help as I have made them up as i go along. The second one is the one I've been using the past week or so, and is great. The traits go 20-0-30-10-10, which gives me great toughness and condition damage as this is where most of my damage comes from. The first one is one i made today with traits 20-0-10-10-30, which obviously has lower toughness, but has the ability to apply a lot more confusion due to the traits. I've not tried the first one in a proper raid yet but I will soon. For all the builds i run staff and sword/focus, and use feedback, null field and either veil or blink. After more research, if i get full ascended (rings and ear rings and the correct amulet) i can get 80 more toughness, 189 more vitality and 74 more condition, so this is my pve aim for the next long time.